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Posted 07 December 2004 - 23:11

Vadå "Danne in disguise"? :angry:
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Posted 07 December 2004 - 23:32

Vadå "Danne in disguise"? :angry:
Va f** ska det betyda!? Ska jäg bli anklagad för varenda skit som skrivs här?!

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Det finns för övrigt något som kallas IP. Med denna kan man enkelt se varifrån en postare postar. Kronärtskocka och Danne har samma IP - det kommer med andra ord från din dator. Så att anta det är inte speciellt långtgånget.

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 23:41

Väldigt offtopic för vad tråden gäller nu.

Alla kliver tillbaka och tar ett djupt andetag, annars stänger jag tråden.

Alla bör bemöta folk med den respekt de själva vill bli behandlade. Och det gäller samtliga. Svordomar hör till detta.

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 23:43

Vore lite taskigt att stänga tråden...kan man inte bara ta bort vissa inlägg i värsta fall? Det lär komma fler nyheter om FF, liksom...
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 08:54

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Posted 10 December 2004 - 09:46

Det skulle kännas mycket mer äkta, och skulle säkert göra det hela till en bättre film, än den s/m high-tech film det verkar bli nu wink.gif


Skulle det kännas mer äkta om Reed tog Sue över knäet och smiskade henne? På vilket sätt?

Och s/m, vad syftar du på?

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Sado-masochism ;) Typ Batman-bondage med utstående bröstvårtor och mycket läder och high-tech ;) ...Ni får ta det här med en nypa salt...

Inte nödvändigtvis smisk i skön 40-tals anda, även omd et skulle vara kul...Men tänk er klassiska amerikanska filmer med lite udda budskap...
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 09:51

Gruppbilden, var riktigt schysst!
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 10:18

Du verkar ju inte ha så mycket till övers för sådana här filmer...varför tittar du på dem?
Jag vet vad s/m är, men jag trodde inte du kunde mena det...för var ser du de där influenserna?
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Posted 14 December 2004 - 12:48

Hehe...Jag uppskattar dessa filmer otroligt mycket, men tycker oftast inte de är någon höjdare, speciellt inte om man jämför med serierna...Och jag tycker det ändras för mycket i originalet för att passa in i vår moderna kultur, och superhjältarna ser allt mer "porriga" ut, vilket inte kan ses som något positivt, eftersom man inte ska runka (ännu större nypa salt) till superhjältar ;)
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Posted 14 December 2004 - 14:38

Åh, Johnny ser ju äldre ut än Reed. Han ska ju vara blond!!!

Förutom det kan det här bli en riktigt bra film. Inte bättre än Spidey 2 och X2 men bättre än Hulk och Daredevil
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 12:21

Att den slår både Hulk och Daredevil är möjligt, även om filmen saknar skickliga skådisar och sånt, som sagt håller alla tummarna ;)
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 14:04

Både Ioan Gruffudd och Michael Chiklis är duktiga och skickliga skådisar
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 18:42

Precis. Och Jessica Alba är inte helt värdelös heller. Hur Julian McMahon är vet jag inte riktigt, har bara sett något enstaka avsnitt av "Charmed", och det är kanske ingen måttstock.

Med vissa undantag har det varit idel duktiga skådespelare i Marvel-filmerna, så jag tror inte det är så stor risk här heller.
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 19:32

Jo Jessica Alba är bra hon med.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 11:40

Kanske inte riktigt kan hålla med där, men, men...
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 11:46

Jag skulle gärna se lite mer belägg för dina åsikter. Vilka filmer och skådisar har varit dåliga och i så fall varför? Annars finns det en risk att låta som en gammal repig skiva som hackar.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 18:28

Trailern är ute!!!!

Fantastic Four
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 18:32

Ok, om ajg förstått det här rätt:


Doc Doom skapas samtidigt som FF i samma olycka... Nåja, man kan väl inte förvänta sig att det skall hålla sig helt till serien


Är det bara jag, eller får den där trailern filmen att se rätt kass ut?

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 18:44

Jo, en del verkar ändrat där. Men what the hey, ändringar får man ibland tåla faktiskt. Hulk ändrade de friskt i, och ingen verkar klaga direkt på det.
Trailern ser okej ut, med lite reservationer av Reeds förlängda arm. Sen var det skönt att se att Reed kommer att få gråa tinningar. :)

Har än så länge hopp om den här filmen, den lär väl inte bli ett "mästerverk" eller en konkurrent till Spider-Man 2 eller X2, men en god underhållning med hjärta i hoppas jag på. :)
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 21:28

Ja, hoppas det! Ser riktigt bra ut det här tycker jag!

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Posted 09 March 2005 - 17:43

Simon Kinberg on Writing Fantastic Four
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
March 9, 2005


Martin A. Grove at The Hollywood Reporter has published an excellent interview with Fantastic Four writer Simon Kinberg. Here's a clip on Dr. Doom in the movie:

"The biggest thing I did on that movie, I think, was transforming the villain of the film. That was an ongoing and continuous process over the span of production because we just needed to make sure that we got the villain right because he is probably the most famous villain in the Marvel universe -- Dr. Doom. It actually was the basis for so many different villains and so many different comic books and even Darth Vader. He's the sort of uber-villain that they needed to make sure they really nailed and Julian McMahon plays him in the movie and did a fantastic job with him. But I was also working on the other characters and the other scenes and the action sequences that always transform as you're suddenly in the space and there aren't walls that are supposed to be walls and stuff like that. That was also a very fun process. I went up to Vancouver a few times to work closely with Tim and the cast. As somebody who was just a huge fan of the comics, it was just a thrill to suddenly see The Thing played by Michael Chiklis actually embodied and walking around was a pretty surreal stunning incredibly exciting thing -- no pun intended."



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Posted 09 March 2005 - 17:56

Från USA Today:

Marvel's fearsome foursome
By Scott Bowles, USA TODAY
Since they formed a dysfunctional superhero family in 1961, the Fantastic Four have grappled with all forms of treachery and villains such as the power-hungry Dr. Doom, the bionic soldier Super-Skrull and the planet-devouring Galactus.
  From left to right: Chris Evans, Michael Chiklis, Jessica Alba, and Ioan Gruffudd bring the Fantastic Four to life. 
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But they never faced the League of Nerds. Or its doomsday weapon: the Internet. Or an Oscar-winning animated film that beat the superheroes to the big screen.

Those foes arise July 8 when Fantastic Four arrives in theaters amid weighty expectations. And although the world may not be at stake, Hollywood's comic-book universe will be watching how one of its most beloved titles fares on the big screen.

A lot is riding on the film. Distributor 20th Century Fox already has committed to at least one sequel and has hopes for an X-Men-style franchise. More than 60 companies have merchandise tie-ins, producing everything from Fantastic Four video games to toothbrushes and beanbag chairs.

Many also see the film as a chance to invigorate a genre that has sputtered of late. Though comic-book sequels such as Spider-Man and X-Men have been hits, new adaptations have struggled. Catwoman and Elektra were unmitigated flops. The $100 million Constantine opened to a strong $34 million but dropped 64% its second weekend.

The genre, says Rob Worley of comics2film.com, could use a hero — or four.

"People have been waiting for years for this movie to be done right," Worley says. "The comic book is so loved, I think fans just want something that pays respect to the stories they grew up on."

But will respect be enough? The road to theaters has been a bumpy one for Marvel Comics' first superheroes.

Hollywood has been tossing around scripts for decades. A campy 1993 movie was made but never released. Director Peyton Reed (Down With Love) left the current film in 2003, citing creative differences.

Newer challenges face the superhero family. Internet buzz has been mixed for the film's trailer, and some devotees are incensed at the film's departures from the original story line. The movie had to surrender its original July 4 weekend debut so it would not compete with Tom Cruise's War of the Worlds, which opens June 29.

And a little cartoon already has stolen some thunder from Mr. Fantastic and company. The Incredibles, which won an Oscar last month for best animated film and raked in $259 million, was a thinly veiled parody of the comic book. Fantastic Four filmmakers concede they had to alter their movie, even cutting one scene that was too similar to one in The Incredibles.

After The Incredibles opening, "the first couple of weeks there were a lot of four-letter words thrown around," Fantastic Four director Tim Story says. "Add that to the crazy shooting schedule, and it's felt like everything about this movie has been on the fly.

"But in the end, I think we're going to have the goods. Fans are going to see it was worth the wait. And I'm hoping we can turn non-fans on to Fantastic Four."

Legend to the rescue

To hear Stan Lee tell it, there almost was no Fantastic Four.

The 82-year-old writer for Marvel Comics had been with the company since the 1940s and had grown tired of stories about vampires and mutants.

"We weren't doing comic books about superheroes back then," he says. "They were romances and mysteries and stories for very young children or adults who didn't have high IQs. I was tired of it and was going to quit."

His wife suggested he do one more comic book, his way. "If I got fired, so what?" Lee says.

Around the same time, rival DC Comics, which was then known as National Periodicals, was seeing huge success with its Justice League of America, a team of heroes that included Superman, Batman, Flash and Green Lantern.

Martin Goodman, publisher of Marvel (then Atlas/Timely), asked Lee to attempt his own super team. Lee joined artist Jack Kirby and created Fantastic Four, based on four astronauts who are zapped by cosmic radiation on their way out of the Earth's atmosphere.

Lee created less a team of superheroes than a family of oddballs. Team leader Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic, is a brilliant scientist who has the consistency of Silly Putty and can stretch his body to extreme lengths. Reed's best friend, Ben Grimm, aka The Thing, is a living pile of orange rocks who possesses great strength — and sarcasm. Susan Storm, or the Invisible Woman, can disappear on demand. And her kid brother, Johnny Storm, i.e. the Human Torch, has a penchant for flames, which fly from his body.

The team was, and remains, an anomaly in the comic-book world. Initially, the four did not wear costumes. The group doesn't hide its powers from the public and enjoys some level of celebrity. The four bicker, tease one another and occasionally struggle with their place in the world. Over the years, members have quit the family only to return. Reed and Susan are married and have a child, Franklin, whose telepathic powers are emerging.

The comic was an immediate hit, but fans wrote Lee with one complaint. They hated the street-clothes look. In the third issue, the Fantastic Four donned their blue costumes.

"I've never understood it," Lee says. "For as long as I've been doing comic books, fans have insisted their heroes be in some kind of get-up. That's the only reason The Incredible Hulk has green skin. It was the only costume I could think of for a guy who doesn't wear a shirt."

The outfits did wonders for Fantastic Four. The comic has sold more than 250 million copies worldwide. It remains one of Marvel Comics' top 10 sellers.

Danny Fingeroth, author of Superman on the Couch: What Superheroes Really Tell Us About Ourselves and Our Society, says that Fantastic Four captured readers with its take on family.

"Before then, comic-book heroes were the Boy Scout and Girl Scout type, very two-dimensional," he says. "But these characters don't always get along. There's a real sense of humor — sometimes at each other's expense. They are dealing with emotions like guilt, remorse and anger. But in the end, when the chips are down, they are there for each other, just like most families. That's why they've appealed over the decades."

Appealing at the box office is a harder sell. It's one thing to draw a man on fire. Getting Johnny Storm to throw fireballs that will impress a film audience already jaded by spectacle is another matter.

In 1993, Constantin Films had to produce a movie to keep its film rights to the property. The company cranked out a $1.5 million film, produced by Roger Corman, full of 1960s camp and crude special effects that included a mechanically extended arm for Mr. Fantastic. The hokey film was never released, though bootleg versions are floating around the Internet.

Though Fox has more money and technology to throw at this film, it also faces a skeptical fan base already concerned that the script is straying too far from the source. Some bloggers are taking the film to task for its treatment of the villain Victor Von Doom, aka Dr. Doom. In the movie, Doom is a fellow astronaut of the Fantastic Four, a vast departure from the comics.

"I've stopped looking at the Internet," director Story says. "I've been nerding out, trying to learn as much about the comic book and the characters as I can. But I'll never know as much as those guys. And I realize I'll never please them all. I knew the hard-core fans would be on me for every little detail. I just have to look past that to get the spirit of the characters."

Challenges all around

Some of that spirit, filmmakers and executives concede, was usurped by The Incredibles. The Pixar film has a father with great strength, a mother who can stretch, a daughter who can become invisible and a son with superhuman speed.

"Some of The Incredibles is lifted so clearly from the Fantastic Four" story, says 20th Century Fox president Hutch Parker.

"But that is an all (computer-generated) movie. Ours is a pretty different enterprise. I don't think it will hurt us. If anything, the success of one fantastical tale helps open the door to another."

Try telling that to Marvel Studios chief Avi Arad. Arad managed a ticket to The Incredibles premiere "and snuck in undercover." He left feeling less than incredible.

"I have no legal proof they lifted anything" from the comic book, he says. "Let's just say great minds think alike."

Filmmakers cut a scene in which The Thing rescues a cat from a tree because it looked too similar to a scene in which Mr. Incredible does the same thing.

"That had been a part of the comic book, but they did the scene first," Arad says. "And they made a great movie. Our challenge is to make just as great a movie."

Story says he can. And he is aiming beyond comic-book fans. "The person I really want to reach is the girlfriend who has never heard of the comic but tags along with her boyfriend. If she likes it, too, we'll have made a good movie."


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Posted 15 March 2005 - 09:52

En intressant tråd som jämför Tim Storys vision av Fantastic Four med originaltecknaren Jack Kirby:

http://www.superhero...ad.php?t=166281


Och i flera bilder jag har sett så saknar nu Sue sin urringning. Mycket bra. Har mer och mer tilltro till den här filmen. :)


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Posted 30 April 2005 - 11:40

http://www.comicscon...04/26/index.htm

"They wanted that human element to him, that he was trapped," Chiklis said during an appearance on Independent Film Channel's Dinner for Five over the weekend. "So, I was the right guy. I was in that 60 pounds of shit and I wanted out bad.

"I have to say it was the triumph of my life when I heard them say, 'Michael, you're wrapped.' It's the only time in my life that I've started a gig and from day one, when they put that suit on me the first time, I turned to my wife and I went, 'I can't do it. I'm not going to be able to this.'

"And I was terrified. Because, here they pushed for three months for me. They went out of their way for me. Great role. Great project. And I'm like, 'Because of a suit, I'm not going to be able to do this?'

"I had a day or two of real intense panic. I had to call a shrink. I had to call a psychiatrist and talk to her."

Chiklis said the psychiatrist was helpful in putting him in the moment.

"She was like, it's an extraordinary set of circumstances and the things that you're going to have pull out your inner mind and into the moment were connecting at people eye to eye and talking to people, and it was true," he said. "As soon as I got out of the makeup trailer and start to talking to the director or talking to one of the actors, I wasn't in my head anymore and I was in the moment. As soon as I was alone again, for a moment, it would start to rise on me."

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 18:37

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