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[Kermit]

Cappy har rätt, det var ju en flopp ekonomiskt och den lades ned snabbt. Oavsett vad man kan tycka om serien. Själv gillade jag säsong ett, men inte två lika mycket alls.

[Crusader]

Dark Angel lades väl i första hand ned därför att den var för dyr och göra? Eller minns jag fel nu?

Jo, det stämmer. Serien började med 150 milj. i budget och det väntades, som sagt, att alla i USA skulle se den. Men det blev inte den succe som väntades och serien var aldeles för dyr för att behålla med den publik som den hade.
Så ekonomisk flopp är rätta ordet.

[Robert Jonsson]

Mmm. Instämmer med det som sagts ovan av Kermit och Crusader. Den hade för få tittare i relation till antalet tittare. Hade serien kostat väldigt lite att göra så hade den nog fått överleva.

Frågan är dock var alla pengarna gick - förutom till Camerons bankkonto

[Crusader]

Ja, faktiskt. Var gick de 150 milj. igentligen? Serien hade bra action och specialeffekter men inte så bra.
Jag gissar på att Cameron ville använda så mycket "riktigt" som möjligt och att det gick till uppbyggnad av en massa scener utan genvägar.

[Forever Xena]

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Summer Glau - "Sarah Connor Chronicles" Tv Series - Thefutoncritic.com Review
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THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES (FOX) (Sundays at 9:00/8:00c this January)

The network’s description: "Executive producers Josh Friedman ("War of the Worlds"), David Nutter ("Supernatural," "Smallville") and C-2 Pictures ("Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines") bring to television an intense new drama based on the celebrated heroine of the "Terminator" movies: Sarah Connor. At the end of "Terminator 2: Judgment Day," Sarah vanquished the liquid metal Terminator sent from the future to kill her teenage son, John. Sarah and John now find themselves alone in a very dangerous, complicated world. Fugitives from the law, they are confronted with the reality that still more enemies from the future, and the present, could attack at any moment. THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES reveals what happens when SARAH (Lena Headey, "The Brothers Grimm," "300") stops running and goes on the offensive against an ever-evolving technological enemy bent on destroying her life, and perhaps the world. Her son, 15-year-old JOHN CONNOR (Thomas Dekker, "Heroes"), knows that he may be the future savior of mankind, but is not yet ready to take on the mantle of leadership that he’s told is his destiny. John finds himself inextricably drawn to CAMERON (Summer Glau, "Serenity," "The Unit"), an enigmatic and otherworldly student at his high school, who soon proves to be much more than his confidante she assumes the role of Sarah and John’s fearless protector. On their trail are not only threats from the future, but an intelligent and tough FBI agent, JAMES ELLISON (Richard T. Jones, "Judging Amy"), who soon becomes a powerful ally. Directed by David Nutter and produced by Warner Bros. Television and C-2 Pictures, THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES represents an exciting reinvention of the "Terminator" franchise, in which the strong and intrepid Sarah discovers that protecting her son and stopping the rise of the machines is more difficult than she had ever imagined."

What did they leave out: It’s actually far more ingrained into the "Terminator" mythology than you’d expect.

The plot in a nutshell: August 24, 1999. It’s been two years since the events of "Terminator 2." Sarah Connor (Lena Headey) and her son John (a likeable Thomas Dekker) have finally found some sort of peace in the small town of West Fork, Nebraska. Sarah has even got herself a new last name (Reese) and a nice guy fiance (Tim Guinee) but her continued dreams of the world ending still keep her restless. Convinced something is coming, Sarah and a reluctant John make a run for it - this time to the self-described hick town of Red Valley, New Mexico. Daniels, her broken hearted husband, goes to the police where an FBI agent (Richard T. Jones) tell him the truth about Sarah - she’s an escaped mental patient who’s convinced robots from the future are traveling back in time to kill her son. Furthermore, she’s responsible for the death of scientist/family man Miles Dyson and the destruction of Cyberdine Systems. Unbeknownst to both of them however, Daniels’ missing persons report has triggered a certain red eyed machine that’s been lying in wait for Sarah. Back in New Mexico, John befriends a local girl named Cameron Phillips (Summer Glau) and the arrival of a substitute teacher named Cromartie (Owain Yeoman) will once again change his life forever. He reveals himself as a Terminator - opening fire on John’s classroom, apparently killing Cameron in the process. As luck (or fate) would have it - Cameron is also a Terminator, sent back in time to protect John. The two, in the first of several outstanding stunt sequences, make a break for it with Cromartie still hot on their trail. It’s not long before he stumbles across Sarah, hoping to lay a trap for John with the old voice faking trick from the films. Another outstanding stunt sequence later, John, Cameron and Sarah are on the open road together, the relentless (albeit damaged) Cromartie still in pursuit (as is Jones’ Agent Ellison). It’s here we get the info dump we’ve been waiting for - despite their efforts in "T2," Skynet somehow still becomes operational on April 19, 2011, destroying most of humanity in a nuclear blast two years later. Cameron herself is from 2027 but unlike her Arnold Schwarzenegger counterpart from the films, has no idea who created Skynet. They opt to track down Miles Dyson’s widow but that proves to be a dead end. Their only option - visit a bank where Cameron’s counterparts have left them something that can not only stop Cromartie but send John to a safe place where they can hide from the Terminators. It would be cruel to reveal any more but suffice it to say, the "something" is a giant MacGuffin device that sets up the show.


What works: To the show’s credit, the producers have found a very clever way to bottle up the events of the third "Terminator" film (in which Sarah has died of leukemia) and - once the show is finished - reopen said bottle so the series doesn’t conflict with the films. And while it takes a little bit of technobabble gobbledygook to get there, the feeling established at the end of the pilot is one that’s fresh, new and (thankfully) unteathered by future continuity. In terms of the actors, you probably couldn’t do better than Headey and Dekker. Both do a yeoman’s job of easing into their iconic roles, but still obviously take some getting used to. The real prize here though is director David Nutter, who continues to prove why he has the "magic touch" on the pilots he works on. Everything just looks and plays like a feature film and there’s nothing here that says this couldn’t have worked on the big screen. Previous fans of the franchise will also find plenty to squeal in excitement about - whether it be the closing moments set to Brad Fidel’s score, Sarah’s narration over a tracking shot of the open road (a la the end of "T2"), more eye rolling Terminator "one liners," POV shots from the Terminator’s HUD or just the general feeling of respect for the previous films. I must confess this was way better than I was expecting.

What doesn’t: At the same time, this installment feels less like a "pilot" and more like an excuse to rearrange the deck chairs on the "Terminator" franchise to potentially have a TV show. In other words, we’re given zero sense on how the show will work week to week. While obviously some housekeeping is to be expected, a little taste of what’s to come would have been nice. But that’s probably more of a preference than a criticism. My only real nitpicks are a few brain farts on the part of the characters - Cromartie, Cameron and Ellison find our heroes in New Mexico only because Sarah forgets to change her "Reese" alias - something you’d think (considering her Nazi-esque rules about staying hidden) she’d have done as soon as they arrived in a new town. (Cameron even points it out after the fact.) It just betrays her intelligence. It’s also a little weird to watch Cameron go from sweet townie girl to personality-less machine as soon as Cromartie arrives. I mean, if "it" knows how to make John open up as the new guy in school why does it need to be reminded that pulling bullets out of itself topless might be construed as socially awkward? Again, it just sort of betrays the character’s intelligence.

The bottom line: The bottom line is, nitpicks aside, I’ll be there with bells on when this premieres.

Spoilermarkeringen er egentlig inte vad jag tycker er spoilers , men hellere markere än at få stryk

[XC]

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'Chronicles' will veer far away from 'Terminator 3'

Josh Friedman says there's a lot of problems with "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines," that came out in 2003. But the worst part wasn't the story, or the writing, or even the overall concept. It was simply lacking Sarah Connor.

Friedman recently told Terminator Files that he hopes to correct that with his new Fox series "The Sarah Connor Chronicles," which will pick up where 1991's "Terminator 2" left off.

"I thinkt he big thing about T3 is, obviously, there was just no Sarah Connor and that's something the fans were never happy with," Friedman told the Web site. "I don't even think the people who made T3 were happy with that. It just wasn't a choice of theirs."

Linda Hamilton, who had portrayed the character in the first two movies, opted out of a third one despite the fact her character played a key role in the original T3 script, Friedman said. The writers had to scramble five years ago to craft a new story without her.

"They wanted it to be kind of her trilogy, and it never could be," he said. "So I think that my feeling was this TV series to me sort of serves as the third act to that trilogy -- what could have happened had we followed that after T2. So I almost think of this as T3__________ ."

For those worried about continuity with the franchise, however, Friedman said that this could be considered more or less an "alternate timeline," where it will tie in strongly with the first two Terminator films, but will ignore anything that has or will happen in the third . That includes one of the major plot points that involved Sarah Connor contracting leukemia and dying , Friedman said. It won't happen to the character as portrayed by "300's" Lena Heady .

"You should not expect her to get leukemia in Season 3 ," he said. "Unless Lena really pisses me off."

One aspect that Friedman does want to change is the fact that the movies focused on a lot of time with the Connors on the run and the Terminators chasing.

"Chases, I don't think, work very well in television week to week," Friedman said. "I think we have to sort of expand the world. I think it would become sort of monotonous for me to do a chase show every week, besides considering how producible that is. I think we'll see them a lot more proactive and involved in a lot of things more mysterious and deeper than kind of a Terminator-of-the-week story."

Friedman did somewhat confirm that the series will be set in the 1990s, and not in the present time, picking up where the second movie left off.

"I'll tell you that it picks up after T2 and goes forward," he said. "That's all I will say. I'll leave it to everyone to see what it does, but I think we've thought of some cool stuff."

"The Sarah Connor Chronicles" is set to premiere on Fox in early 2008 starring Heady as well as "Heroes'" Thomas Dekker and "Firefly's" Summer Glau.

For Terminator Files' complete interview of Friedman, including what attracted him to cast Glau, read the full interview by clicking here.

Jag tycker det låter intressant iaf.

Jag har försökt spoilermarkera nyckelsaker för dem som inte vill veta, men samtidigt är nyfiken på resten. (Säg till om jag missat något).

Det är inte megaspoilers vi talar om, utan mest småsaker som de flesta kanske redan listat ut.

Tycker det verkar lovade iaf att man väljer och lägga upp det som en alternativ tidslinje - det ger definitivt serien mer möjligheter. .

Edited by XC, 24 June 2007 - 18:40.

[Aztecface]

Den här serien har börjat tilltala mig mer och mer.

[Crusader]

Jag tycker du har spoiler markerat en massa onödiga saker som inte ens är spoiler. Varför t ex spoilermarkera händelser från filmen? Den har ju några år på nacken. Och sedan att serien går en annan väg än T3 är väl ingen spoiler? Man kommer ju säkert inte ens märka det mer än att hon överlever.

Jag gillar inte när de skippar vissa officiella historier. Det blir bara snurrigt och fel. Inget stämmer.
Men i det här fallet så har de ju knappast något val. Dock tycker jag att de borde ha kommit på något sätt att komma runt det istället. T ex att någon från framtiden reser tillbaka och botar henne eller att hennes leukemia inte var naturlig utan del av en plan som SkyNet gjort i framtiden för att stoppa personen som formade deras Nemesis. Sedan kunde ju de, med hjälp från nån i framtiden, rädda henne. Istället för att bara skippa det.
Fast visst, det ger serien mer möjligheter med en alternativ väld men ändå.

[XC]

Konsekvens. Just småsaker är väldigt svåra att bedömma - och jag har inte spoilermarkerat vad som händer i T3 jag har spoilermarkerat vad som inte kommer att finnas med i serien. Vilket jag bedömde vara en del av "småsakerna" som jag spoilermarkerade i övrigt.

Jag tror inte man vill ha T3 hängandes som en kvarnsten runt halsen. Jag ser det som positivt att man väljer att gå från en alternativ tidslinje, och med filmernas tidaspekt ändå - där handlingen kretsar just om att ändra framtiden - så är det ganska passande.

[Crusader]

Hmm, verkar som att de har döpt om serien till Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Eller så är det bara för marknadsföringen så att folk ska fatta vad serien är kopplad till.

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[cyberhof]

Jag såg en screener av piloten idag och vart positivt överaskad trodde inte den skulle vara så här bra.
Helt klart T2-känsla nu återstår bara att se när resten av själva serien kommer (om den kommer det vill säga)...

[Crusader]

Ja, jag skulle precis berätta det att piloten nu finns att lada ner och ska vara jättebra. (Håller på att ladda ner den nu)

[Rick Hunter]

Har serien redan haft premiär?

[Georgia]

Nej. Men piloten har kommit ut på nätet.

[Georgia]

Scoop! The show's title may be changed to Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Ausiello Report

[Crusader]

Hahah, jag var flera veckor före Ausiello.

[XC]

Haha. Tuché Crusader.

[Rick Hunter]

Har sett piloten jag också nu och jag gillade vad jag såg, serien har klar potential!
Men jag är livrädd för FOX lägger ner den efter typ 5 avsnitt

[PredaBot]

Uj uj uj ja. Det här var grejor! Såg också piloten för några dar sen, och jag blev riktigt imponerad. Faktiskt, så tror jag att denna serie nu officiellt har tagit över som min favorit på tv, framför Lost.

Vet inte vad alla oroar sig för Fox, dom har ju Simpsons som får gå i evighet, och den här showen är ju bra som bara den, varför skulle dom INTE ge den en säsong eller två?

[Crusader]

Jag gillade också piloten (Utom möjligen musiken som jag inte tyckte passade). Lite osäker på vad jag tycker om tidshoppet men jag antar att de hade inget annat val pga ekonomiska orsaker. Kan bli lite kul med att vänja sig vid 2007. (Komiskt att serien börjar 2008 men jag antar att de kanske ändrar det)

[PredaBot]

Vad hade du emot musiken? Såvitt jag kan minnas var det ju det klassiska super-sorgsna soundtracket från filmerna. Dududuu dududu duuu duudu du dud duu duuu

[Supertreck]

Blir det inte något osammanhängande. Att de robotar som dyker upp här inte ifrågasätts i filmen Terminator 3?
Som att ingen robot dykt upp på tiden där emellan.

Men men serien blir väl bra.. Jag kanske bara är handling-skraltig

[Crusader]

Vad hade du emot musiken? Såvitt jag kan minnas var det ju det klassiska super-sorgsna soundtracket från filmerna. Dududuu dududu duuu duudu du dud duu duuu

20 sekunder precis i slutet innan slut texterna, ja. Men de andra 1h 45 min. så är musiken nåt helöt annat och låter inte alls som något från filmerna.

Blir det inte något osammanhängande. Att de robotar som dyker upp här inte ifrågasätts i filmen Terminator 3?
Som att ingen robot dykt upp på tiden där emellan.

TV-serien går en annan väg så sakerna i Terminator 3 händer aldrig. TV-serien utspelar sig 2007 och förklarar att Judgement Day händer 2011 medans i Terminator 3 så är det 2003.

[Forever Xena]

Just set piloten , jag gillar vad jeg set tillsvidare.

Summer Glau er så bra !!!!!

[Supertreck]

Ho ha. Det finns ju parodier på Terminator som jag såg på youtube, att han åkt till jesus tid
och mördar folk. Jesus blir inte så glad som måste hela folk.